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  • #1167
    keithcuda
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    Is there a way to make a kitchen cupboard? For example: it would have two sliding drawers, with a combined height of 24 inches. Then from there having two panel doors that would go all the way to the ceiling. Or some type of variation.

    I could draw a tall base cabinet, but then it would leave a spot for a countertop. And if a draw a long upper cabinet, it wouldn’t have the necessary toe kick.

    Let me see if I can find a picture on google so you can see what I am talking about.

    #1168
    keithcuda
    Spectator

    Picture file was too large, here is the link. The cupboard on the right is a variation of what I am trying to explain.

    http://www.sierraesl.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/standard-height-of-kitchen-cabinets.jpg

    #1170
    cabwriter
    Keymaster

    Hi Keith,

    Thanks for the image, I think I get what you’re trying to do. Check out the enclosed pictures, of a kitchen I just completed with a similar situation with the pantry cabinet along the back wall. It had drawers at the bottom, then two larger bays on top. You’re correct in that there’s not a built in, elegant way of doing that yet with CabWriter, but you’ll be happy to hear that Joe is hard at work right now on a solution, but it’s not ready yet.

    In the meantime, you can do what I do in this situation. Draw a short base cabinet with a drawer at 24″ high in your case. Then, draw an upper directly on top of it and overlapping it as necessary to make things line up. In my case, there was a 1 1/2″ rail separating the bays, so I made the lower cabinet have a 1 1/2″ top rail and the upper cabinet had a 1 1/2″ lower rail. Then, the starting elevation of the upper cabinet is the lower edge of the top rail on the lower cabinet, if that makes sense. In the end, you end up with two cabinets; the upper rail on the lower cabinet and the lower rail on the upper cabinet occupy the same space. Then, you delete one of the rails and the stiles on one of the cabinets and extend the remaining stiles to cover the entire cabinet. You’ll have to stitch up and side panels or sheets as well as the backs, but it doesn’t take very long. You end up with one cabinet that has parts with different cabinet numbers, but it’s workable. If it’s a frameless cabinet, it’s even easier because you don’t have to stitch the stiles and rails together, but you may have to deal with a side panel and the backs.

    Hopefully, we’ll have a more elegant way of doing this soon, but in the meantime, give it a shot and see if you can get it to work and let me know if you need more help.

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    #1173
    cabwriter
    Keymaster

    Hi Keith,

    Oops, somehow I attached the same photo twice above. Here’s the one with the doors closed.

    Thanks,
    Greg

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    #1177
    chiefwoodworker
    Keymaster

    Hi Keith,

    In the short term use the method Greg has described above. As Greg mentioned I am working on some additional tools that will allow you to start with a tall Standard Base cabinet with no drawers or doors. The, with a few new tools such as Insert Drawer and Insert Door you can place doors, drawers, dividers, shelves, rails and stiles anywhere you wish. The full suite of tools will take a while, but the doors and drawers will be available in the next release, about two weeks away.

    Joe….

    #1180
    keithcuda
    Spectator

    Greg and Joe,

    Thanks for the quick reply.. That is exactly how I thought I needed to make it. I just wanted to make sure I wasn’t overlooking something. Ill try to get around to it this weekend, although I have some actual class homework I need to get down and a view other things. Ill let you know how it works out…

    Cheers,
    Keith

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